Recently got my DS3231 and have questions to ask...

BlowbubblesBlowbubbles Member Posts: 5
in HARDWARE & SYSTEM (ES1)
Hi there,

I recently got my DS3231 module labeled ZS-042 off from http://www.kynix.com/Detail/99971/DS3231.html and it came with a CR2032 3V battery.

The module works at 3.3V and also 5V however after some days of usage at 5V I noticed that the battery has become quite "thick". A quick check with the multimeter confirms that the module force-charges the battery with VCC! Not quite nice.
Here a pic:


So you should at least power this module only at 3.3V, even then, question to the experts:
is it save to "charge" a 3V CR2032 at 3.3V continuously without it breaking after some time?
2nd question: is it ok to charge a LIR2032 at 5V?

Other than that the module works quite well with the time library.

Best regards!

Comments

  • PedalToTheMetalPedalToTheMetal Member Posts: 137
    Wrong forum, should be in the off-topic section instead.
    Anyway. The most 2032 cells are not chargeable, so desolder the trickle charger circuit (I googled the schematic and there is a 200 Ohm resistor and some random diode, desolder one or both). Also keep in mind any non-chargeable cell if cracked may actually burn up, and there is always a warning text stating that ;) A fun idea is to swap out the resistor with something in 1-2k range and replace the battery with a supercapacitor, which may or may not suit your needs. And I truly hope you aren't using Arduinos as they are probably the worst way to mess-up an AVR chip I ever seen :)
  • BlowbubblesBlowbubbles Member Posts: 5
    Sorry and thanks for your response :p:p

    Ah, ic, I think it would be best to use a supercap instead of the CR/LIR battery, something like this:



    How about that？

    Actually, I wanted to use the ds3231 to send an interrupt every second to my arduino pro mini (5V). There are some libs that set up the ds3231 to do just that however not the most cited one maybe. :|
  • PedalToTheMetalPedalToTheMetal Member Posts: 137
    Under the "worst way" I actually meant not rigging the RTC, but using the Aurduinos (not the stock AVRs!) themselves as using a device that comes with a lot of unnecessary code itself and gets even more of it from untested compilers and libs is actually not the best choice for sure ;) Anyway, neither the battery or a cap is needed if you simply want to use the chip as a TCXO, no libs either as it basically needs just a couple of writes (pretty easy on stock AVRs in ASM code, can't tell if it remains the same for arduinos) - though I prefer SPI for one's speed and the lack of need in a TWI statemachine which is pretty fat compared to the SPI sender code (the latter is usually around only 10 instructions), also you can do an SPI send-receive in a direct call, without interrupts and software state flags you'll need to keep the TWI dataflow from stalling the chip (it is not always essential yet is not really nice, especially for the real-time applications with microseconds accuracy).
  • BlowbubblesBlowbubbles Member Posts: 5
    Guess figure out what you mean, nice and awesome response, a huge thanks for your sharing, you know, your knowledge and experience my friend :)
    Have a nice day!
  • HuQiangHuQiang Member Posts: 1
    I am improving my integrated circuit. I used this battery. It is very small, but it can be used for a long time, but when I assembled it, I found that if I need to replace this battery, I have to remove it again. It will be more troublesome, I found it using: https://www.allicdata.com/list.html?category_id=1886
  • PedalToTheMetalPedalToTheMetal Member Posts: 137
    Who needs batteries if there are tons of supercaps around? ;)
  • NorryTesiNorryTesi Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2021
    Hi...for your 2nd question i would say Lithium-particle can be held at a consistent state voltage, on the grounds that the charge current will ease back to hardly anything. The issue is that holding the cell at that consistent state voltage isn't simple. Furthermore, I would stress less over harming the battery and more about what befalls lithium particle when it is abused. (Clue: they have an awful propensity for detonating.)

    To appropriately charge a Lithium-Ion cell you need to have a decent consistent current stockpile that is programed to incline the voltage appropriately for a lithium-particle. Conditions for over-tempeature and over-voltage *must* be considered, other insightful, the battery can (and will) detonate.

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